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I was a member of the 9.12 project. I quit. It wasn’t what I was looking for. I was a member of RedState. I quit. It wasn’t what I was looking for. I would never join MoveOn.org. Any group that would take out a full page ad playing games with Gen. Petreus as Gen. “Betray-us” is repulsive to me (which they’ve since taken down from their website). I’m like Moses wandering in the desert looking for the Promise Land. The problem with politics on the internet is it’s just group think. The Right Wing site say,” Blah,Blah,Blah Democrats are bad!” The Liberal site say’s,”Blah,Blah,blah, Republicans are bad!”
Meanwhile their audience just nods there head and logs on looking to have their views spoon-fed to them that what you feel is OK. Everyone here feels the same way. Where is the political discourse? Where is the time honored American tradition of compromise? It’s no where! No where on the most influential medium of our time. The internet.
I’m sure that members of the conservative/right will have no problem with their newsletters and forums convincing 100% of Republican voters to vote Republican. I’m also sure that 100% percent of liberal/progressive newsletters and forums will convince 100% of Democratic voters to vote Democratic. Unfortunately elections are won and lost by independents. These groups vote with their brains. The others vote with their hearts.
This is a comment I received from a group I belong to-
“even when I read a post from a moderate I have to blink and shake my head. It is like that song, “You have to stand for something or you’ll fall for anything”. Even Charlie Brown was teased because he could not make a sound decision on anything.”
There are SO many things wrong with that comment. Number 1. You can’t take advice from song lyrics. That’s like me saying whenever I read a post from a liberal/conservative it’s like that song, “She’s buying a Stairway to Heaven”. And to take advice or see any symbolism amongst Charlie Brown cartoons is unreal. I mean Snoopy dressed up as the Red Baron..does that mean he supported the Germans in World War 1?
It’s bizarre. I can’t get political information from the news. All the channels are just corporate mouthpieces. Pushing their views so that they can get bigger ratings and sell higher priced commercial time. That’s not a free media. People like to rip Fox News but in an Alice in Wonderland type world they do somewhat give liberals at least a chance to appear and get shouted down on their shows. The craziest thing I ever seen on TV was when a guest on Sean Hannity said that,’ Sarah Palin is a “more articulate” speaker than Barack Obama.” Juan Williams head almost exploded right on the set. (Video at the 2:30 mark and on)
The other night MSNBC had an interview of Harry Reid’s opponent in Nevada Sharon Angle. The interview (with video) consisted of a man sitting 2 feet away from Ms.Angle and yelling at her. Then we saw the one reporter chase Sharon Angle down a parking lot yelling at her trying to get answers. Where were these reporters when Barack Obama was running for President? When a GOP strategist starts a group called “Republicans for Reid” what does that tell you? Harry Reid has been linked with Nancy Pelosi, and Barack Obama’s dangerous “liberal, marxist , communistic philosophies”, and now Republicans in Nevada are going to support him? HIM!
This is another sign of how Jesse Ventura former governor of Minnesota once said, “that it’s all fake”. The rivalry of the Republicans and Democrats are just as real as the rivalry of professional wrestlers. If you read any Socialist or Marxist material you would know that they don’t believe that Obama is a “socialist or Marxist“. Obviously with all the money that Obama raised from Wall Street and the oil companies they didn’t think he was a dangerous Marxist.
Where were all the “patriots” screaming against the violation of the Constitution when George Bush passed the Patriot Act? Where is the ACLU screaming bloody murder as Obama and Lieberman move closer and closer to government control of the internet?
“Right now China, the government, can disconnect parts of its Internet in case of war and we need to have that here too,” Lieberman told CNN’s Candy Crowley on State of the Union Sunday.
This is just more fear mongering by the chief war monger of the Senate Joe Lieberman. A man who lost his parties nomination because of his pro-war stance and was able to circumvent democracy by running as an independent. Yeah Joe we should be more like China. Let’s start by cutting off the 4 billion dollars in foreign aid that we send to Israel. I’m sure China doesn’t send them 4 billion. I agree we need to be more like China.
I can go on and on about the double standards and hypocrisy in this country. A government of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich. A government of war mongers and speakers of fear. And it doesn’t matter who gets elected. Democrats, Republicans. It doesn’t matter. We sink everyday deeper in debt. More Americans keep dying fighting the Taliban. Not Al-Qaeda. The Taliban. And everyone who cares. Just keeps sprouting off the party line. I guess that is politics 2010. It’s a disgrace. My question to you is there any room in America for moderates? What about on the internet?
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I stumbled across a book I don’t even know when, but I finally pulled it off my shelf this week to read. It’s called “Only Yesterday” by Frederick Lewis Allen. I don’t know anything about the author other than what’s written on the back of the book (not much). But the book is a history of the 1920s (starting in 1919 at the end of WWI) published in 1931. It’s a very interesting perspective and is very comparable to today’s America.
I googled and found this link – http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/allen/cover.html
I will definitely check it out.
I think taking advice is always a very complicated issue.
I see what you’re arguing, but isn’t art a product of human thought, theories, hypothesis, and relationship with its environment and equals?
Musics, paintings and literature can be used as an argument if well interpreted and articulated with what the person is trying to convey.
I think the main problem with that comment is that it doesn’t get to the point, that sentence has been repeated so exhaustively that it has become common sense rather than a thought-provoking line.
What I would point out in the person’s comment is his/her inability to go beyond, to see things through, to have a mind of her/his own.
In your place, I would have simply answered: True. I stand for not standing by people who can’t think for themselves.
Oh, yes, I almost forgot.
Isn’t here a place for moderates?
Let’s make this blog grow and prosper!
Don’t forget number 6!
You know what. I almost forgot number 6. I won’t. It helps rationalize the world. Thanks.
J.P., first and foremost thank you for taking the time to stop by my blog and leave comments to boot. Second, I enjoy your writing style and the look and feel of your blog. I’ll be stopping by more often.
We obviously disagree politically but socially I would say we are two bloggers in the middle. I think your blog hits some very strong points and is similar to most of the arguments I have with people who have the nerve to attack my beloved Dallas Cowboys! Sometimes I have to turn a blind eye to the lack of passion they display or the owner who is fulfilling his lifelong dream of playing “real” fantasy football. Essentially, I sacrifice common sense for blind, thoughtless, loyalty.
I don’t believe there is a place for moderates because politics has become a cash cow that is fed by polarizing figures like Arianna Huffington and Sean Hannity. (I have a sneaking position that these guys are are twitter friends, and tweet each other as they laugh all the way to the bank!) The Paul Krugmans and Mark Levins of the world are tapping into the deepest, darkest crevices of our views and exploiting them for gain. We let them and allowed no room for moderates.
“I can go on and on about the double standards and hypocrisy in this country. A government of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich.”
These are the truest words spoken because you’ve tapped into the real political party of America and that is the Green Party. I mean really, it isn’t possible for a Liberal to completely disavow any contribution that Bush made in the eight years he was in office. It is just as implausible to believe that a Conservative can find no small sentiment of respect for our current President. However, the financial majority will have us to believe that politics are as black and white as Snoopy’s coat and ears.
You hit the nail on the head that moderates are a dying breed but I’m not convinced it’s due to group think. I just don’t think common sense is very profitable.